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    118TSI - wheels spinning creates violent noisy shudder

    I was wondering about this bizarre symptom with my otherwise excellent Golf Mk6.

    When accelerating from a standstill in the wet, or uphill, I can get a fair bit of wheel spin for 3 or 4 seconds until the car moves smoothly and traction control kicks in... nothing unusual there.

    But what bothers me is that the entire cabin sounds like a bloody noisy drum while this happens.

    Its as if the car is driving across an unsealed road at high speed and sounds like it would shake itself to bits.

    I don't know if its my tyres (Pirellis) or the suspension, but I have a stock standard 118TSI DSG for a year now and its always behaved like this.

    Should I take it to dealer ? Anyone else have this ?

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    Ease up on the throttle, always happens if you give it a little too much of the go pedal
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    Hi,

    If that noise occurs only when the wheels are spinning it could be axel tramping, quite common in front wheel drives.

    The abs (also used for traction control these days) could also be making the noise which is also nothing to worry about.

    Your tyres definately have an effect as it defend on the level of grip that they provide.

    Hope this helps.

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    Axle tramp, ease up on the go pedal.

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    Sounds like the traction control working. Mine will make the same noise if I spin the wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonoB View Post
    I was wondering about this bizarre symptom with my otherwise excellent Golf Mk6.

    When accelerating from a standstill in the wet, or uphill, I can get a fair bit of wheel spin for 3 or 4 seconds until the car moves smoothly and traction control kicks in... nothing unusual there.

    But what bothers me is that the entire cabin sounds like a bloody noisy drum while this happens.

    Its as if the car is driving across an unsealed road at high speed and sounds like it would shake itself to bits.

    I don't know if its my tyres (Pirellis) or the suspension, but I have a stock standard 118TSI DSG for a year now and its always behaved like this.

    Should I take it to dealer ? Anyone else have this ?
    I too have notice this on two occasions =/
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    Thanks everyone, I definitely will ease up because I can't stand that noise.

    My car is barely doing 5kmh and it sounds and feels like I'm thrashing across a dirt road... im sure other cars in the past never did this.

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    I've merged this thread into an existing thread of the same topic.

    Coincidentally, over in the Skoda area, another thread on this same topic was started today:
    http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f149...fix-58584.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonoB View Post
    When accelerating from a standstill in the wet, or uphill, I can get a fair bit of wheel spin for 3 or 4 seconds until the car moves smoothly and traction control kicks in... nothing unusual there.
    The traction control should engage and start to reduce wheelspin within a second or so at most. If you see the light flashing on the dashboard, you know it's engaging and that's a good hint to back right off the throttle.

    If you're getting this shudder for 3 or 4 seconds before you get any traction control intervention, your problem may not be (solely) wheelspin. Could be damage to or loosely/poorly adjusted suspension components.

    Quote Originally Posted by JonoB View Post
    My car is barely doing 5kmh and it sounds and feels like I'm thrashing across a dirt road... im sure other cars in the past never did this.
    You do need to be giving it the full welly to get heavy wheelspin and bad axle tramp in the dry, unless your car has a serious issue that should be addressed (be that worn tyres or something else). So unless you're being intentionally brutal, this simply should not be something you'd encounter under normal conditions, period. If you wouldn't describe your launch technique as excessive, then I'd suggest you do take your car to a dealership or specialist, and demonstrate the problem to them pronto.
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    The drivetrain moves quite a bit under heavy throttle. When you get some wheelspin the TCS kicks in, reduces power and the engine suddenly moves back into place, resulting in a loud thump through the chassis. It is possible that something attached to the drivetrain is hitting the body/chassis.

    Sticky tyres and better suspension set-up can help reduce wheelspin and therefore the thump. Firmer engine mounts or an engine mount insert that prevents the engine twisting on the mounts will help a lot. I notice that quite a few vendors sell them.
    If you dig a hole and it is in the wrong place, digging it deeper isn't going to help.

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