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  1. #1
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    Jason is right about 118TSI. I was initially set to get 90 TSI with comfort pack, but changed my mind just before the delivery date, and managed to get 118TSI. I dont regret it as for 2K, you are getting all the comfort line options + better & faster engine + better trim (seats/ 16" alloys etc) which is really worth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geojack555 View Post
    Jason is right about 118TSI. I was initially set to get 90 TSI with comfort pack, but changed my mind just before the delivery date, and managed to get 118TSI. I dont regret it as for 2K, you are getting all the comfort line options + better & faster engine + better trim (seats/ 16" alloys etc) which is really worth!
    And it does sound like a fix for the squeal noise is imminent - good news for everyone

    I'm awaiting a quote from my lease firm on the 90TSI. It'll be interesting to see what discount they can get off the RRP. If it's 10%+ as suggested by the spreadsheet in another thread I could consider an upgrade.

    The spec sheet I have says that the more powerful car actually uses less fuel in the urban cycle (8.3L/100km v 8.4L/100km), although 'tis very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGR View Post
    And it does sound like a fix for the squeal noise is imminent - good news for everyone

    I'm awaiting a quote from my lease firm on the 90TSI. It'll be interesting to see what discount they can get off the RRP. If it's 10%+ as suggested by the spreadsheet in another thread I could consider an upgrade.

    The spec sheet I have says that the more powerful car actually uses less fuel in the urban cycle (8.3L/100km v 8.4L/100km), although 'tis very close.
    We haven't noticed the supercharger squeal. All I hear as my wife drives off in the morning is a slight turbo whistle - unnoticeable inside the car which has done 2500 kms. Amazingly, we are getting 8.3 -8.4 economy in a car which spends nearly all its time in the suburban traffic.
    2009 118 TSI
    1980 Bedford van
    2015 Hyundai i30 SR

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    cktsi,

    Happy to comment on real world figures for both.

    I use the 103TDI DSG as my "high-mileage" work truck. I'm a mortgage broker, & I'm on the road quite a bit. I'm based in Brisbane, & have clients as far away as Gympie, & the Gold Coast.
    The TDI does a mix of highway cruising, & absolute bumper to bumper gridlock in Brisbanes' peakhour.

    It was delivered on 22/09/09, & has now done approx 4500km, for an average of 5.85l/100km. That's calculated from refueling to the first click, not the MFD.

    The 118TSI DSG (delivered 29/06/09) has done probably more kms on freeways, but has done some work around town.

    After approx 8500km, the average has been 7.28l/100km.

    I think it's fair to compare the two of them.

    So, in real life, the TDI has been 1.43l/100kms more fuel efficient.

    Remember, the TDI has the 6 speed DSG, & the TSI has the 7 speed.

    I love the 320Nm of torque in the TDI, & also love the refinement & smoothness of the 118TSI.

    They are different enough, so that I still look forward to driving each of them.

    The TSI has the full kit (RNS510, Park Assist, Sports Pack with Leather, Dynaudio, etc), & feels very different inside.

    The TDI also has RNS510 + Sports Pack, but just the standard cloth trim.

    There's only a couple issues that annoy, & one of them is familiar to all recent Golf Owners:

    1. Hey, one of your reverse lights is out...

    The 2nd is, "why do you have 2 Golfs?"

    There's several answers to question 2, however, here's 3:

    a) They drive very differently
    b) Each, in their own way, meets my needs for the type of car I want to drive
    c) Because I can.....

    The TSI replaces a VE SS 6.0 MY08 Auto Sedan.
    The TDI replaces a MY08 Mazda 2 Maxx man. Hatch.
    MY09 Silver Leaf 118TSI DSG, & MY09 Candy White 103TDI DSG

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    I also have 2 diesels, an Audi A3 125 kw and a Golf 6 103TDi. Both are very fuel efficient and mixed driving results in 5.7 to 5.8 litres/100km. It is very easy to drive a diesel and get great fuel consumption figures.

    Both cars compensate for the rotary powered car I have which drinks fuel like water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonP View Post
    cktsi,

    Happy to comment on real world figures for both.


    I think it's fair to compare the two of them.

    So, in real life, the TDI has been 1.43l/100kms more fuel efficient.
    Which is why we didn't pay the extra for the TDI. the car is only going to do 15000 kms per year.

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonP View Post
    There's only a couple issues that annoy, & one of them is familiar to all recent Golf Owners:

    1. Hey, one of your reverse lights is out...

    The 2nd is, "why do you have 2 Golfs?"
    You forgot Hey, one of your foglights is out. Our second question is "Why did you get rid of that lovely Honda (2007 Accord Euro Luxury Navi) We just take them for a drive in the Golf.....
    2009 118 TSI
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    2015 Hyundai i30 SR

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    Quote Originally Posted by cme2c View Post
    Our second question is "Why did you get rid of that lovely Honda (2007 Accord Euro Luxury Navi) We just take them for a drive in the Golf.....
    So you prefer the Golf to the Euro? Wow that's a big call. Besides being more spacious, hasn't the Euro got anything going for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soogs View Post
    So you prefer the Golf to the Euro? Wow that's a big call. Besides being more spacious, hasn't the Euro got anything going for it?
    Um, no, not really. The Euro is a quiet, comfortable, luxurious car. It had satnav, 6 stacker, dual zone climate control, HID headlights, leather, power front seats (no memory) sunroof, 17's. We got the Honda to replace a Peugeot 307 when we got sick of things going wrong.

    The only reason we started looking for something else was that my wife found the Euro too big. The original plan was to keep the Euro for another year, but the changeover was right.

    The most impressive thing about the Golf is that it is as quiet as the Euro, and as comfortable. I was expecting it to be noisier, being a hatch, but it's not. The Golf (on 16" wheels) rides better than the Honda, and the Pirellis on our Golf are quieter than the Bridgestones on the Honda.

    We weren't great fans of leather, and she never used the sunroof. Manual seats are actually quicker to adjust than electric. The RNS 510 is a bit different than the Mitsubishi satnav in the Honda, but we're getting used to it. Love the HDD audio and really glad we got the Dynaudio. Front and rear sensors and camera were the icing on the cake (the Honda had rear sensors only not integrated with the screen).

    The Golf also uses 25% less petrol.

    Look, the Euro is a lovely car. We had absolutely no problems with it. it is well made, and holds its value really well. I don't miss it though.

    John
    2009 118 TSI
    1980 Bedford van
    2015 Hyundai i30 SR

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    Quote Originally Posted by cme2c View Post
    You forgot Hey, one of your foglights is out.
    The reverse light thing is getting very old, everytime I show off how the RVC comes out of the badge when I put it in reverse "oh you got a reverse light out already"....sigh.

    The foglight thing is even more annoying, "When you pulled out of the driveway did you have your foglights on, cause only one was working".....again, sigh.

    Stoney!
    Last edited by Stoney!; 18-11-2009 at 02:50 PM. Reason: punctuation correction
    6 Sp Manual 118 TSi
    Colour: United Grey
    Build Date: August 09 Delivery Date: 16th Oct 09
    ODO at last fill: 2555km
    Avg Fuel Cons at last fill: 8.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney! View Post
    The reverse light thing is getting very old, everytime I show off how the RVC comes out of the badge when I put it in reverse "oh you got a reverse light out already"....sigh.

    The foglight thing is even more annoying, "When you pulled out of the driveway did you have your foglights on, cause only one was working".....again, sigh.

    Stoney!
    In the MFD I deactivated the coming home light function due to the constant "sir you left your headlights on" experience in my old MkV. Of course, I used the 'workaround' of unlocking the car then locking to prevent the hassle in the MkV.

    I still have the leaving home activated in the Mk6.
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