Reply With Quoteisnt there a european luxury exception list ?
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You really have to wonder at the stupidity of State Governments in relation to "blanket" bans on things....
My son lives on the Gold Coast and was interested in getting either a Polo 77TSI or Golf 90 TSI but when we started to look into the fine details... they are classed as HIGH POWERED (PERFORMANCE) vehicles because they have a Turbocharger and are NOT diesel powered.
Regardless that the 90 TSI DSG and the Polo have a power to weight ratio of 70kw/tonne he can't drive one unless he "applies" for an exemption. When you read what documentation is required for the exemption it just isn't worth the time and effort.
Does anyone know an Easy way around this???
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isnt there a european luxury exception list ?
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This topic has been already covered in the forums, but to reiterate again...Originally Posted by Andych
In QLD, you are eligible for an exemption if:
1. the vehicle is a moderately-powered turbocharged or supercharged -OR-
2. you can demonstrate personal circumstances or severe hardship
Since the Polo and Golf (with the exception of the GTI variants) can be classified as moderately powered performance vehicles, you only need fill out the sections relating to condition 1 (there isn't much to fill out). You do not need to fill in the sections relating to condition 2.
The only supporting documents you need to provide relate to the vehicle's power and weight specification, which can be done easily enough by attaching, say for example, a brochure and highlighting the relevant information with a big red texta or something.
The regulations should be similar for other states as well.
Read it again carefully.
Download form number F4467 for full details, it should all be very straight forward.
Lol, if there were such a list, it wouldn't be listed there either.
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It just makes things much more complicated.. like going for a test drive etc....
As for the exemption list... it is done via Redbook and it is not complete and there are lots more "undetermined" than determined...
The stupidity of it all is that he could quite happily drive away in a Passat R36 with no exception needed but it is illegal for him to drive the 90 TSI Golf or 77TSI Polo...
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I read somewhere that in QLD a "P" can't drive a 90TSI Golf but can drive the 77TSI Golf ????????
2010 90TSI Manual / Comfort Pack / United Grey
RICE - Leave the useless wings to the Penguins...
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Same in Vic. But in Qld you can drive a M3 on P's if you ahve lots of money.
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That's un Australian mate!!! What an Effen jerk off.
But back on topic each states laws regarding these types of scenarios need to be looked at to avoid total confusion with people it makes no sense you can drive higher power N/A vehicle and be banned from lower power forced induction motor.
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Well, I'll grant you that.
Bit difficult to get an exemption for a car you haven't bought yet!
Contact the relevant transport authority, as well as the dealer, and see what they have to say on the matter.
As long as the vehicle in question has:
- a turbocharged or supercharged engine that is not diesel powered
- a power-to-weight ratio not more than 125 kW/tonne
- less than 8 cylinders
- a power output not more than 210 kW
- a rotary engine with a capacity not more than 1146cc
- no modification that must be approved by the "Vehicle Standards and Safety Regulation 2010"
... then it is more than likely that it will be eligible for exemption, even if it's eligibility or otherwise is yet to be determined.
See above.
Similar rules apply for NSW and VIC as it does in QLD.
Also note (for VIC):
NO EXEMPTION IS REQUIRED from VicRoads if the probationary driver is driving an employer’s probationary prohibited vehicle in the course of his or her employment and at the request of his or her employer or where there is an Australian Business Number (ABN) in force in relation to the person’s business. The onus is on the driver to provide evidence to the police if requested that he or she is driving the vehicle for work purposes.
Which would explain why some P platers can drive these cars (albeit temporarily).
The transport authorities have recognised this, which is why they exempt probationary drivers from driving "moderately" turbocharged or supercharged vehicles. Again, getting an exemption for such vehicles is a mere formality, you just have to prove the vehicle meets the required conditions (power-to-weight ratio, etc).
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You would think that they could try a little harder to make all models of the same engine the same though....
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Yeah, true.
But luckily, it doesn't really matter what the site says. As long as it's not actually banned (e.g. Golf R) and meets the "moderate performance vehicle" conditions, I don't anticipate any problems.
Though I realise that the most immediate issue is, how do you go for a test drive in a car which is sure to be exempt, but without the actual exemption...
Perhaps they'll make an exception?
In any case, make some phone calls tomorrow to TMR and the dealer as well - rather curious in what they have to say.
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