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I've had both TSI and GTI. Sold/traded both for a Scirocco
TSI had 2 water pump changed, DSG clutch pack and dsg remap under warranty. Otherwise, great car to drive and excellent fuel economy
GTI was a late 2011, had no rattles and great point to point squirter :). Fuel economy was only 1l/km poorer
Sorry to whore this thread but, I too am in this position 118TSI w/APR Stage 1 or GTI? It must be DSG so theres no escaping that fact. The car won't be tracked or anything like that and will majority of the time be driven A-B with a bit of spirited driving on the odd occasion. Could some 118TSI owners please give me their opinions?
About to clock 30K with my MY10 GTI. Have had absolutely no issues, not even any rattles...................although VW customer service and dealers are in general shocking. Not really a mechanical related issue but had to let it out.
Edit: Air-con smell problem is an issue for me personally.
A couple of points in favour of the Stage 1 118 TSI:
* Price
* No turbo lag (supercharger is awesome with Stage 1 + a SprintBooster set to Race mode)
* Essentially just as quick as a stock GTI (only a few ponies less than the GTI, but 320nm of torque compared to the GTI's 280nm).
* Stealth/sleeper. Doesn't grab unwanted attention unless you decide to accelerate from 0-100kph in < 7 seconds. :D
* Better fuel economy (about 1l/100km less than the GTI).
* Can retrofit other GTI items such as flappy paddle steering wheel or metal pedals.
* Avoid an expensive (~$1200) DSG oil change at 60,000km service. That saving alone almost covers the APR Stage 1 upgrade.
Those are the headlines, hope that helps.
Why wouldn't the 118TSi need a 60k km DSG service?
I too am dumbfounded by this... pls explain :PQuote:
Originally Posted by DoggieHowser
You still service the car at 60000km, but the 7spd DSG is DRY clutch, no oil to change.
GTI is a 6spd DSG wet clutch setup.
my mind is BLOWN. too bad i cant rep you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_R
lol, I'm happy to share what I've read/heard. Occasionally I get it wrong but others here are quick to correct me ;)
btw if I recall correctly that $1200 was for someone getting their car serviced at Volkspower, so a dealer would presumably charge considerably more for it.
How is that a point in favour of a 118, Ryan? You still need to pay $$$ and do the mods. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_R
At the end of the day, if you want something that's more sports-inclined, I'd recommend the GTI. Bringing a 118 up to GTI spec in all respects would cost far more than simply buying a GTI (both in terms of standard inclusions, and mechanicals). You can chip anything with a turbo and get good gains, but straight-line urge is really just one component of a much bigger picture.
But, if what you're after is a highly competent and comfortable daily with a bit of poke, that's not a sports car or really a hot hatch, then the 118 is a great choice.